Curt Gridley, a philosophy alum who graduated from WSU in 1980, and who went on to found Amber Wave Systems as well as Groover Labs, was featured on the 13th episode of the Shock Talk: Innovators podcast. You can listen to the episode at the following link: https://anchor.fm/shocktalk/episodes/Innovators-Ep--13---With-Curt-Gridley-80-e1bn9qi