2018 Shocker MINDSTORMS Challenge
Answers to Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
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If you have a question about a mission or the Challenge in general, please fill out the Questions form. This will help us answer questions more efficiently and archive questions and comments for use in future planning. Please do not send questions through e-mail. Thank you!
When asking questions, please keep in mind that the FAQ page is meant to address questions about basic design or fundamental rules and goals of the Missions. The Missions are designed to encourage teams to think about alternative ways to design and program their robots to complete specified tasks. Exact reproduction of the courses is not necessary for programming and development. On Trial Day, each team will have the opportunity to ask detailed questions about the Missions. Teams will also have time to test their robots on each course and make modifications to their designs and programs as needed. MINDSTORMS robots are meant to be autonomous - they should react to their environment. For example, if the tape is not in the exact position as noted, the robot should not be affected. Also, note that there is a 1/8" tolerance on the building of all competition courses.
| Topic | Question | Answer |
|---|---|---|
| General | Our team has a community/business sponsor. Can we acknowledge them on our team t-shirts? | Yes, we are very happy if teams can get support from the community and you are welcome to acknowledge that support on your team's t-shirts. |
| General | What happens if one of the team members is sick the day of the competition and that makes our team below the number required? | You need at least five (5) registered team members (Beginner and Beginner II) or eight (8) registered team members (Intermediate and Expert) present on Challenge Day to be eligible for the awards. If something happens and fewer than the minimum number of team members shows up, then the remaining team members are MORE than welcome to run the courses, but they willl not be eligible for awards and/or trophies. |
| General | Is there any kind of penalty if a piece falls off the robot (intentionally or unintentionally) while completing the scenario? | Unless explicitly stated by the course mission itself, there is no penalty. |
| General | The members on our teams have changed. How can we change the registration information? | Once a team has been registered, the team members' names cannot be changed online. If you have a change, please email that information to Karen Reynolds. It will be the coach's responsibility on Trial Day to check the list of team members' names to ensure accuracy. |
| General | What software is required to run the robots? | There are no restrictions on the software used to run the robots at the MINDSTORMS Challenge. |
| General | Can robot parts be labeled? | Robot parts can be labeled as long as the label does not provide a competitive advantage, does not add functionality, or does not in any way interfere with the performance of the robot. |
| General | Can teams bring their laptops to the mission areas? |
No. Programming devices of any kind (including laptops, notebooks, or iPADs) are not allowed in the mission areas. Programming and Bluetooth devices must remain at the team's table in their work area. |
| General | Can I attend both Awards ceremonies? | Yes, anyone can attend either or both ceremonies. |
| General | On Challenge Day, can parent mentors help at the team table and as needed to provide asssistance to the team coach? | Absolutely! Parent mentors are welcome and encouraged to work with the team. Parent involvement should be limited to "mentoring". Only team members should be building and programming the robots, and only team members should carry the robots to the courses and complete the runs. |
| General | Are teams allowed to use the tiny white rubber bands that come in the MINDSTORMS kits to secure pieces of the robots? | Any official LEGO part can be used on a robot. Any rubber band, tie, cardboard, etc., that is used to pack a kit cannot be used. |
| General | If I have multiple sensors attached to my robot, do I need to remove the unused ones when I move to the next course? | Any sensor can be attached to your robot, however, certain courses limit the sensors that can be used to run the course; for instance, the Table Runner requires that the touch sensor (only) is used. See the individual course rules for details concerning use of sensors. |
| General | Is the old RCX allowed? | Yes. Teams may use the RCX, NXT, or EV3. |
| General | For the Beginner and Beginner II levels, is it ok to complete all the courses. | Yes, both Beginner and Beginner II teams may run all five courses. For Beginner teams, the best three scores will count towards their total score. For Beginner II teams the best four scores will count towards their total score. |
| General | Can you use a Lego Technic pneumatic part that is engaged by an EV3 motor? | Yes, according to the rules, robots can be built using any "OFFICIAL LEGO PARTS". |
| General | Is Shocker Hall open for lunch on Trial Day and what is the cost of the meal? | Yes, Shocker Hall is open on Saturdays from 10:00am - 1:30pm. Cost for lunch is $8.00. |
| Team Display | Can your display face multiple directions? | No, your display should face one direction. It is possible that your table will be placed against a wall or something else blocking one side of the table from view. |
| Team Display | Can coaches stand next to you and tell you where to put things on your table? | No. The creation and set-up of the Team Display should be done entirely by the student team members. |
| Team Display | Do team members need to stand beside the Team Display? | No. The Team Display does not need to be manned. |
| Team Display | How many team members may be used to setup the display. | There is no required number of student participants involved in setting up the display. (No adults allowed!) |
| Team Display | Can a display hang over or extend beyond the table? | No. The display cannot be larger than the table top. Exception: a cloth or table cover can be used. It can hang below the table top, but should not take up any additional space and will not be part of the information judged. |
| Team Display | What are the dimensions of the table for the Team Displays? | The tables are 6' x 2.5'. |
| Team Display | When judging the display will the judges look in the notebook or will they only judge what is displayed on the table in plain sight? | The Team Display and the Team Notebook are two different competitions. They are judged independently of each other using the scoring sheets for the Team Display and Team Notebook |
| Team Display | How will the standard "The display is aligned with the theme of the competition" be judged when there is no overall theme this year? | In the absence of a theme, each team will choose their own theme and build their display around that. Judges will score teams based on how well "the display demonstrates the team's individual theme." |
| Apprentice Courses | Is there a time limit for the Apprentice courses? | Maximum time limit for official runs on Apprentice Courses is 3 minutes. The run will end at 3 minutes and teams will receive the scores earned up to that time. |
| Line Follower | Is the robot only allowed to use one light sensor? | No, multiple light sensors are allowed. |
| Line Follower | Does robot have to stop at end of run? | No. |
| Line Follower | What is the start position? | The rules state: Your robot must begin its run while the back of your unit is lined up with "A" . |
| Line Follower | Can you use a color sensor? | Yes, you can use either a light sensor or a color sensor. |
| Line Follower | What constitutes the ‘back' of the robot? | The last physical piece of the robot including wheels, wires, and sensors. |
| Line Follower | What constitutes ‘1-inch' off the track? | The entire robot has to be more than 1” off the black track. As long as the robot is touching or at least within 1” of the track, they are okay. |
| Line Follower | Does the robot need to be programmed to report the time it took to run the course? | No. The judges will use a stop watch to determine the time in which the robot finishes the course. |
| Table Runner | Do you have to use touch sensors for this challenge? There is another way. | From the web, "The purpose of this Apprentice Mission is to utilize the touch sensor capability of the NXT/EV3 unit. You must therefore show satisfactory evidence to the course Judge that the unit is utilizing a touch sensor to direct its motion and change of direction when reaching the edge of the table." |
| Table Runner | Are ultrasonic sensors allowed? | No. |
| Table Runner | Is there a specific starting orientation required? | No. |
| Table Runner | Does the robot have to stop when completed? | No. |
| Table Runner | Does the 30 studs x 30 studs include all wires? | Yes, the wires must stay inside the 30x30 during measurement and at the start of the run. If the robot extends AFTER the start button is pressed, that is okay. |
| Table Runner | Does the robot have to touch the “X” on each pass? | No. |
| Table Runner | Does it count if the robot rolls off the edge on the eighth touch? | No. The course rules state “Touching the edge will be determined if the activation of the touch sensor at the edge of the table causes the direction of motion to be changed without the unit falling off the table.” |
| Table Runner | Can the table be cleaned? | No. We will try to provide the best table available. All participants will be competing on the same table throughout the day. |
| Table Runner | Can another sensor be used to assist with alignment as long as it is not the trigger for the change of direction activation counting as a side touch? | Yes. The Mission Judge will need to be provided satisfactory evidence that the unit is utilizing a touch sensor to direct its motion and change of direction when reaching the edge of the table. |
| Maze Runner | Do robots need to use a specific sensor on Maze Runner? | No. Any sensor can be used. |
| Maze Runner | Can multiple sensors be used on the same robot? | There is no limit on the type or number of sensors used for the Maze Runner. |
| Maze Runner | Are we encouraged to design a program optimized for the particular maze, e.g., by instructing the robot to go forward by 2 feet, then turn left, then go forward by 1 foot, etc.; or design a sensor-based universal program that would work for other mazes, sacrificing the efficiency for the specific one? |
There are no limits to how you use sensors or program your robot for the Maze Runner. The goal of the course is for students to build and program a robot that autonomously responds to its environment. |
| Maze Runner | Can the robot's height break the plane of the top of the Maze Runner walls? | There are no restrictions on robot size or construction. |
| Maze Runner | If there is a tie for 1st and 2nd place, will a winner be determined by how quickly they finished the course, or will it remain a tie? | The scores earned for each course are only a small part of determining an overall winner at each level (Beginner and Beginner II). Time is not a tie-breaker consideration. |
| Maze Runner | Do the Checkpoints need to be passed in sequential order to earn points? | Checkpoints can be passed in any order or sequence. They may be skipped if teams choose to do so. In order to achieve points for any checkpoint, all wheels, tracks, or parts of the robot in contact with the base must completely pass the checkpoint.The run is declared to be over if the robot becomes stuck and unable to move for 5 seconds. |
| Maze Runner | Does the back of the robot have to be touching at the start or can a cord be touching? | Anything attached to the robot (must be LEGO component) is considered a part of the robot. |
| MOMS | Does the robot have to physically touch the yellow areas or can a component of the robot simply pass over it? | The robot must physically touch the yellow areas. |
| MOMS | Are points deducted for touching the back side of the walls? | No. |
| Towers of Doom | Is there a scoring penalty for touching or knocking over the towers? | There is no scoring penalty for touching the towers, and the construction of the course makes it unlikely that the towers would be knocked over by a robot. |
| Towers of Doom | Would attaching the towers to the course with Velcro have a negative effect? | One negative effect of velcro is that the towers will move when bumped by the robot. The towers on the official course will not move. If your robot never touches the towers, there should be no negative effect. With that said, you are free to attach the towers however you prefer. |
| Towers of Doom | Does the entire robot need to be inside the red starting square? | Only the elements touching the surface must be inside the red area. |
| Towers of Doom | Does this course require use of a specific sensor? | No. |
| Towers of Doom | When are points earned? | Points are earned the first time (only) that any part of robot passes over a corner. |
| 4-Corner Glow | What are the widths of the black and white lines. | Both the black and white lines are 3/4" wide. |
| 4-Corner Glow | Is the warp in the center board intentional? What is the height of the warped 12x12 center board off the surface? Is the warp in only one direction or both? | The warp is not intentional. It is approximately 1/4" and is on the side as shown in the photograph, and the opposite side |
| 4-Corner Glow | Are the 3 center boards glued together or attached to each other (and the course) with Velcro? | As stated in the Building Instructions: "Using Velcro attach the (3) squares to the center of the course as shown on Sheet E of the Drawing." |
| 4-Corner Glow | What is the size of the golf tee? How high is the golf tee off the surface? | The golf tee is 2 3/4" long. A photo of the golf tees purchased has been added to the mission page. The top of the tee will set approximately 3/4" above the course surface. |
| 4-Corner Glow | Does the robot need to follow the black/white lines to gather the ping pong balls and does the robot need to follow the lines in order to deposit the balls into the containment area? | The robot is not required to follow the lines to complete the scoring tasks. |
| 4-Corner Glow | The starting directions state the robot needs to be straddling 2 zones. Does this mean that the robot is half in one color while the other half is in a different color? Does it matter which two colors? | At start, two wheels of the robot must be in one zone and the other 2 wheels in a different zone. It does not matter in which two zones the robot starts. |
| 4-Corner Glow | Do the balls need to be contained in any specific order? | No, there is no order required. |
| 4-Corner Glow | Does the robot have to have at least 4 functioning wheels? |
Previous response: The robot must be equipped with 4 wheels, 2 of which must be placed in one zone while 2 must be placed in a different zone. REVISED: No. The intention is that the robot must straddle two zones at the beginning of the run. The reference to the wheel count was provided as an example and not intended as a requirement. |
| 4-Corner Glow | Do the balls have to be moved off of their starting point or is movement of any kind, sufficient to score points? | Points are scored the first time the Mission Judge recognizes ball movement due to the action of the robot. |
| Fish Food | What color paint is used for the Dry Dock (Platform)? | Walmart ColorPlace semi-gloss interior paint, Beyond The Sea RH200. (This correction has been made on the Fish Food Bill of Materials.) |
| Fish Food | Were the flat washers and hex nuts listed in the BOM used to build Fish Food. | No, they were not. This has been noted on the Fish Food BOM and the estimated cost to build the course has been adjusted accordingly. |
| Fish Food | What is the size of the material used in the main structure of the Finish Platform Box? | The frame of the box is made from 2 x 2 lumber (actual size is approximately 1.5" x 1.5". The Fish Food Drawings have been updated to include this information. |
| Fish Food | Where is checkpoint B? | Fish Food Overview 1 with labels has been updated to show Checkpoint B. It can also be seen on Page 6 of the Drawings. |
| Fish Food | Please clarify how points are earned for contact with food ships? | Points are earned when a food ship is knocked down. Additional points are earned when the other food ship is knocked down. This has been clarified on the Scoring Matrix. |
| Fish Food | Is ramp secured to platform in anyway (Velcro, etc), or is it allowed to slide and sag? | The ramp rests on the edge of the platform as shown in photo. It is not secured. |
| Fish Food | Is the dock/platform attached to the surface? | No. |
| Olympic Rescue | What are the widths of the blue and yellow lines. | Both the blue and yellow lines are 3/4" wide. |
| Olympic Rescue | If an order is not specified in a scenario, can the tasks be done in any order? For example on Olympic Rescue, can you go through Checkpoint B first and then Checkpoint A? | When a sequence/order is not specified, points will be awarded at any time the task is completed. |
| Olympic Rescue | Does it matter which side of the ramp you go down when you start? | No. |
| Olympic Rescue | Can you go back up the same way you came down? | Yes. |
| Olympic Rescue | Is the injured skier standing up or laying down? | The skier is injured and is therefore laying down. |
| Red's Dare | What is the width of the black line? | The black line is 3/4" wide. |
| Red's Dare | Will I loose points if my robot touches a silver blocks? | There are no points deductions for touching the silver blocks. |
| Red's Dare | Would moving a silver can indirectly, such as a silver block being caught up with the robot, constitute as a loss of points? | Points are lost if 'any part of robot' touches a silver can. |
| Wonder WuMan | Does a robot alignment tool have to be removed prior to the run? | Yes, (This rule applies to all courses.) Anything that is not a part of the course or attached to the robot must be removed prior to the time the button is pushed to start the robot. |
| Wonder WuMan | What is the starting point for the robot? | There is no required starting point. As long as the starting position does not alter or interfere with the components of the course. |
| Wonder WuMan | Is checkpoint 4, a point in the center of the line, like checkpoint 2 and 3? | No. Checkpoint 4 is the entire line that is being pointed to. |
| Wonder WuMan | Regarding checkpoint 3, what is the specific location? Also, does the robot have to actually touch these checkpoints (2 and 3) or simply pass by them? | The drawing shows an "indicator" for checkpoints 2 and 3. Both are pointers to the center point of the line which is the actual checkpoint. Any part of the robot passing over the center of the line at the point indicated will score points. |
| Wonder WuMan | Does the boulder (red can) have to remain in the circle to receive points? | No. Once the boulder is in the circle, points are awarded. |
Questions in red were asked by team members and coaches on Trial Day.